I get your point, but sorry I have to stay with the Phelps twins. I've looked over several times and there's just something 'elvish' about the Phelps twins already, even without hair and make up. They just have 'the look'. When I see them I see something of Elrond and Arwin. I know you don't agree, but then that's par for the course when it comes to this and our vastly different opinions.