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Post by derleu on Feb 1, 2008 17:18:15 GMT -5
As we try to make a low-budget or even better a no-budget film, this is the thread for free software that could be useful. Celtx is a screenwriting software with many features including storyboarding, profiles for characters and locations, and much more. Not bad me thinks. www.celtx.com/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtx
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Post by derleu on Feb 6, 2008 5:24:09 GMT -5
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Post by Glorfindel on Feb 6, 2008 10:57:28 GMT -5
I will check it out today! Thanks!
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Post by Glorfindel on Feb 9, 2008 11:38:19 GMT -5
Okay, I've checked out the website and looked at the different examples, but I haven't downloaded it yet. I have a laptop running Vista and I don't know if there would be a problem since it was not designed for it. I have an old box that I may be able to configure to run it. I've been looking into learning "Blender", but this seems a much better option when it comes to landscapes. Thanks.
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Post by derleu on Feb 9, 2008 13:35:23 GMT -5
I've been looking into learning "Blender", but this seems a much better option when it comes to landscapes. Or use it together with Blender! There is a script to import terrains of Terragen into Blender. I haven't tried it with Blender yet, though. projects.blender.org/projects/ter2blend/Yeah, Blender is the next cool free software, hehe. You're learning Blender? Great! Could be the best solution for the project, as it is very flexible and also not so experienced people like me could help - be it only rendering or designing such important things like a table. :-D www.blender.org/
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Post by Glorfindel on Feb 12, 2008 12:35:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still trying to get mind into Blender. It would be great if they could work together. I looked at the Celtx software and it's pretty root'in toot'in good for freeware. Now, I just need more time!
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Post by tamitha on Feb 22, 2008 23:51:41 GMT -5
derleu- hey man, thanks for sharing. I did go in and briefly scout about, but I don't have the first clue about using this type of technology, this is so way out my league. If I had time to play around, I'm sure I could learn, but then that's what we have you and "G" and Lennaire for. I'm really excited about this and I'm very anxious to see what magic you all can pull off. It all looks so promising. I just know this is going to be so way cool when we get it all pulled together. Again, thanks for sharing.
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Post by derleu on Mar 6, 2008 7:05:50 GMT -5
Tree Generator 1.2www.treegenerator.com/Funny little program that generates, well, trees; in different shapes, with or without leaves. The leaves look a bit simple, though (or I'm not doing it right). So I wouldn't design the Two Trees with it, but it's a nice helper. It can save trees as .dxf files for use with other 3D software. Version 1.2 is free (I have not tested version 2.0, which costs 49 $).
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Post by tamitha on Mar 6, 2008 16:25:11 GMT -5
Hey there Derleu! Actually I like it. If you make the trunk a little more thick to give it some substance and actually fill up the branches with leaves while at the same time showing others falling to the ground and then give the leaves a silver (really white I guess, you know like the moon) hue and then another one with a golden (really yellow I guess, like the sun) hue, I think it could work quite nicely. I really like the dome shape of the branches. I really make the tree look full and healthy, it's just too slender. Thank you for sharing.
(I have not tested version 2.0, which costs 49 $).
Has anyone ever discussed how we are going to absorb/share the cost of making this movie? It really isn't quite fair to expect the designers only to pay out their pocket for these programs, even if they are cheap. It all adds up after a period of time. Without the involvement of Chronicler and hS, well I don't know what the original agreement was or if there even was one and I've never seen anything on any of the discussion boards. I don't know who would be in charge of that end of things, but perhaps those of us who are currently involved can figure out someway to pool together our resources. I don't think anyone here can afford to invest an exorbiant amount, I think many of us are either college students or still struggling to get our own careers off the ground, so we need to be sensitive to each others financial stresses, but at the same time I don't think one or two people should have to shoulder the whole burden. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Post by derleu on Mar 7, 2008 5:49:42 GMT -5
Hey there Derleu! Actually I like it. If you make the trunk a little more thick to give it some substance and actually fill up the branches with leaves while at the same time showing others falling to the ground and then give the leaves a silver (really white I guess, you know like the moon) hue and then another one with a golden (really yellow I guess, like the sun) hue, I think it could work quite nicely. I really like the dome shape of the branches. I really make the tree look full and healthy, it's just too slender. Thank you for sharing. I really wish you meant this sarcastically, but I'm afraid you're serious. ;-D It was just the result of 5 minutes work to show something. I have no clue how to make leaves falling. ;-) Oh, that would be a discussion without an end. That's why I only recommend 100% free software (The info about other versions/full versions is just additional info). I would never suggest to buy anything, especially not for one single fan project like this.
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Post by Glorfindel on Mar 7, 2008 14:05:52 GMT -5
Hi Derleu,
Do you know anything about an application suite called ToonBoom?
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Post by tamitha on Mar 7, 2008 21:51:32 GMT -5
I really wish you meant this sarcastically, but I'm afraid you're serious. ;-D It was just the result of 5 minutes work to show something. I have no clue how to make leaves falling. ;-)Um...yeah, well now you see how uninformed and what an idiot I am when it comes to this portion of the project. Yes, I actually was serious and in the picture you provided it appeared to me that the leaves were falling off of the tree or maybe being wind blown off of the tree or....never mind, I've apparently misconstrued the whole thing, so I will defer to you and "G" because this most definitely is not my area of expertise. I'll stick to writing and editing. For five minutes worth of work, I still think it's a cool tree. Oh, that would be a discussion without an end. That's why I only recommend 100% free software (The info about other versions/full versions is just additional info). I would never suggest to buy anything, especially not for one single fan project like this. Okay, cool. Once again, I truly do not know anything about this end of the project, so if there are plenty of 100% free software out there that can accomplish our goal, then fine, the problem solves itself and there is no further need for any discussion. Because of my lack of knowledge, I was just trying to be considerate of everyone involved. Thank you for clearing up my misconception. Seriously, I'm not being rude, crude or socially unacceptable. I honestly do not know anything about this type of software or what is available or cost, etc. etc. That is what we have you for and I fully trust your expertise, so when I say thank you for correcting me, it is sincere and heartfelt.
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Post by derleu on Mar 8, 2008 10:26:32 GMT -5
@ Glorfindel I've never heard of it before, but from what I see, it's the 2D option. Well, 2D or 3D - that is the question. I can imagine both, and only the skills of participating people will decide. ToonBoom is commercial I guess? tamithaThat's the point: It is not my area of expertise either. The program "made" the tree. I only changed parameters like size or irregularity. You could have done that as well. It is really easy, but limited at the same time. ;-) About costs: When I said I wouldn't suggest to buy anything, it does not mean that there are not maybe people who already have commercial software and use it for other things/their job, too (the real experts, you know ;-)). To get those people involved, is the problem.
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Post by Glorfindel on Mar 10, 2008 8:51:15 GMT -5
@ Glorfindel I've never heard of it before, but from what I see, it's the 2D option. Well, 2D or 3D - that is the question. I can imagine both, and only the skills of participating people will decide. ToonBoom is commercial I guess? It's a 2D program. It has a home base and a professional version (or different levels) from what I can tell from the site. There is a free trial download to try it out but I got the full version from an "art board", that has an ftp site to share such things. You can check out some of the animation done by amateurs on the ToonBoom web site. Let me know what you think when you get the chance.
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