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Post by Chronicler on Nov 18, 2004 10:55:09 GMT -5
Alright! Here is the official forum for the Silmarillion Film project, as instigated by the fine people at the PPC Board. Our plan is to make three animated films about the Silmarillion. We'll be writing the screenplays, drawing and voicing characters, and writing music. Let's hear your thoughts about the project. Think it's a good idea? Want to help us out? Let us know! EDIT: Sorry, hS. I meant four movies. And according to the original thread at the PPC, here are the titles: - The Fall of the Noldor
- The Lay of Leithian
- The War of Wrath
- The Tale of Turin
Also, someone suggested also doing the Akallabêth as a film, but that is still under consideration. ~ Chronicler ~
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Post by Huinesoron on Nov 18, 2004 10:59:22 GMT -5
Very nice board! Well done!
Three? I thought it was four. Or did we decide not to do the Tale of Turin?
Anyhow... I've got the prologue and first two scenes of FotN done, and I'm just throwing together a Cast List So Far before I go and write Scene III. Just thought I'd say that.
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Luthien
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Breathe the pollution, it's eee-volution.
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Post by Luthien on Nov 18, 2004 14:06:37 GMT -5
Was a definitive animation decision made? I wasn't aware that was locked in stone.. but okay. Perhaps it was built into this 'ere Wonderwall™...
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Post by Huinesoron on Nov 18, 2004 14:10:42 GMT -5
I didn't think it was, but you must admit, it /would/ be easier. Despite the fact that a live action one owuld probably look better.
Well, either way, we can do the music and screenplay without having to decide.
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Luthien
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Breathe the pollution, it's eee-volution.
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Post by Luthien on Nov 18, 2004 14:13:03 GMT -5
*nods* It just seems a little early to make a decision, all things considered. Besides, we would miss the joy of hS!Maglor if it was animated. I guess you could do the voice, but it wouldn't be quite the same.
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Post by Morgul on Nov 18, 2004 15:58:58 GMT -5
Too true...
*sighs*
At least we'd get to see him in the 'Making of..' flicks, eh?
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Post by Nerdanel on Nov 20, 2004 14:54:12 GMT -5
Here is my suggested rough structure. I think Túrin fits well into the third place.
The Fall of the Noldor Prologue: relevant world history Morgoth unchained Fëanor makes the Silmarils, argues with brothers Militarization of the Noldor Morgoth's deal with Ungoliant Attack on the Two Trees Fëanor refuses to give up the Silmarils to the Valar Morgoth refuses to give up the Silmarils to Ungoliant Oath of Fëanor Kinslaying Doom of Mandos Of the Boats Dagor-nuin-giliath Fëanor's death Dagor Aglareb Epilogue: political fallout in Beleriand, Thingol appears
The Lay of Leithian Prologue: info on Men (Lúthien shown briefly as contrast) Beren's initial adventures, Sauron introduced Meeting with Lúthien Meeting with Thingol Beren goes to Nargothrond, C&C given depth, Huan introduced Beren and Finrod + co. get captured Lúthien sees about it in Melian's mirror Lúthien tries to escape, is imprisoned Beren and Finrod meet Sauron, introducing Thuringwethil Lúthien escapes, gets captured by C&C Beren and Finrod's fellows get eaten one by one Lúthien liberated by Huan Finrod gives his life for Beren Huan and Lúthien defeat Sauron and rescue Beren Beren and Lúthien in disguise Introducing Draugluin Getting the Silmaril Back in Doriath Beren dies, followed by Lúthien Lúthien convinces Mandos to let them return to life Epilogue: Beren and Lúthien as mortals
The Tale of Túrin Prologue: Young Húrin shows courage in Dagor Bracollach, visits Gondolin Húrin, now a family man. goes to war Nirnaeth Arnodiad Morwen and Túrin wait for Húrin to come back Morgoth's curse Morwen sends Túrin to Doriath (all the familiar events) Epilogue: Húrin after his release, fall of Doriath
The War of Wrath Prologue: short recap of the general situation Introducing Tuor Tuor meets Ulmo and goes to Gondolin Tuor in Gondolin, introducing everyone Tuor courts and eventually marries Idril; Maeglin jealous, cousinship not initially obvious to the viewer (Maeglin's life story part 1 - Aredhel and Eöl mostly) Maeglin captured, turns traitor It's somehow really creepy in Gondolin, viewer feels imprisoned (Maeglin's life story part 2 - how he came to Gondolin) Attack on Gondolin Attack on the Havens Eärendil's journey War of Wrath Epilogue: misc stuff, introducing Númenor
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Elianna
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Post by Elianna on Nov 20, 2004 20:12:14 GMT -5
Mucho thanks Nerdanel. That /really/ helps!
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Post by Chronicler on Dec 28, 2004 17:52:11 GMT -5
Well said, Nerdanel. *gives Nerdanel a gold star*
~ Chronicler ~
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Post by Maeglin on Jan 29, 2005 11:15:30 GMT -5
I've seen a flaw, everyone.
It would be a real shame not to include Fingolfin vs Morgoth, but where are we going to put it? It's chronologically in between FotN and Lay of Luthien.
Perhaps a flashback to "last time" before Nirnaeth Arnoediad in the Tale of Turin? Or would that be distracting?
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Post by Huinesoron on Jan 29, 2005 11:22:46 GMT -5
Hmm. That's a big blazing problem. It was in the Bragollach, so...
Well, you could try expanding the Luthien prologue, but it would get off the subject. The other option is that you include a flashback when B&L come up to the gates and see huge mace-holes in the ground. Luthien's half-Ainu, so it's not inconcievable that she'd pick up, I don't know, empathic resonance or something that would lead her to blackflash to it.
Just an idea.
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Post by Maeglin on Jan 29, 2005 12:21:37 GMT -5
Mmm. Alright. I'll do it then, as Morgoth will need a lot of building up, after the emphasis has been on Sauron for the first part of the film. The crushing of Fingolfin will remind everyone that this fella is the big, nasty one.
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Post by Chronicler on Mar 2, 2005 17:09:51 GMT -5
As an aside:
We now have a group e-mail account. Check your PMs for details.
~ Chronicler ~
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Post by Maeglin on May 5, 2005 3:39:33 GMT -5
I just want to suggest a few minor alterations in Nerdanel's skeletons for the later films.
Children of Hurin/Tale of Turin should end with the Dwarves slaying Thingol, a short bit of Beren killing Dwarves, and Dior's succession.
War of Wrath should start with the attack on Doriath by the Sons of Feanor-then return to Tuor.
There is no reason for Maeglin's past to be cut in two, as long as it is exciting but concise. Perhaps Salgant, Lord of Harps, can tell it to Tuor, leading to the flashback.
And finally, the film should end with Maglor's loss and Elrond finishing the recording of the Silmarillion as the evening star shines.
Long way in the future, most likely, but I'm just honing what we've got...
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Post by Manveru on Jul 5, 2005 20:48:10 GMT -5
hey, i think that the the Turin movie should end with Hurin meeting Morwen by the grave of Turin and Nienor, and Morwen dying there. i think that would be a much better emotional ending then ending the movie with another story with characters that weren't very involved in the story.
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