Post by Glorfindel on Dec 19, 2007 10:27:26 GMT -5
Okay, PJ and New Line have patched things up and are set to go forward with "The Hobbit". I'm excited that Middle Earth is continuing on film while the Silmarillion Film Project is cooking in the crockpot. What say you about the news?
This is good news for sure. I am anxious for the Hobbit to be released, I really want to see it. I had heard that the making of the Silm is in talks, so that is progress, but we'll see if Chris backs down on his stand or not. It really is a fascinating book and it is a shame to withhold it the way he is. It would be a blockbuster for sure and bring in at least if not more profit that LotR, so hopefully he will change his mind. Again thanks for joining us, we are happy to have you!
Post by Glorfindel on Dec 19, 2007 12:54:56 GMT -5
I can understand but not agree with Chris's reluctance in letting someone "adapt" the book and make movies "based" on the original source material. My brother, sister and I have formed a small writers group to help each other flesh out and complete our separate writing projects. We discuss from time to time the prospect of (hopefully) being published and being successful enough to be offered the opportunity to have our works translated to film. We all know that literary works have to be morphed, condensed or expanded to become viable movies but how much control do you give up as the author? How much change is "too" much. If there is a strong partnership with the author and film makers, then great. I liked the working relationship that people like Frank Miller had with Zack Snyder on "The 300" or even with Robert Rodriguez on "Sin City" for that matter. Then, you heard the horror stories of crazy adaptations in which the author totally distances himself from the project. I think Chris can get an honest, true to the spirit of the work, film done if he really got involved and got with people that would appreciate his input. In the meantime...I'm looking forward to "The Hobbit" and...The Silmarillion Film Project...best speed ahead!
Post by Glorfindel on Dec 20, 2007 10:46:06 GMT -5
Latest rumours talk about Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy, Blade 2).
I liked Hellboy and Blade 2 was okay. The thing that I was really impressed with was "Pan's Labyrinth". That was almost perfect movie making. If he could use the magic he had on that project on The Hobbit, it was be awesome!
Well, I am so like totally illiterate when it comes to the movies which you fine gentlemen are discussing, however I get the concept because I am a die-hard Stephen King fan. Many of his books have been adapted to film and I am never disappointed. All the movies follow the books so closely. I always read the book first, then watch the movie and when I watch the movie there are certain things that I am looking for. There have been (not Stephen King) books that I have read and they were awesome and then I watched the movie and I didn't even recognize it. I was like what is this? And then of course I hated the movie and people who had never read the book thought it was just the greatest thing, because they were blissfully ignorant. So yes I agree that if Chris would committ himself to the project and stand his ground on certain issues then it could and would be a sight to behold.
Alas, we here are glorified amatures trying our hand at a u-tube movie that we want to be the best it can be, but will never compare to what wizards in Hollywood can pull off for the big screen and so we can take just a bit more luxury at staying as true to the book as possible.
So that's my two-cents as if you asked for it. Good night gentlemen, I actually found a job, in as little as 8 days, how about that?! (just a part time, low pay, but hey some money is better than no money) But duty calls early in the a.m. and I should have been to bed an hour ago. I'll catch up with you soon.
I know where you are coming from on "the book was better than the movie" angle. I use to hate when book worms would point this out but being a slight comic book fan-boy back in the day, I have had raised eyebrows on how they have depicted some superheros on screen. I was blessed not to have been so familiar with LOTR before I saw the PJ movies. I was more in tune with The Hobbit and read LOTR after I saw the films. I believe that it is the "only" reason that I still like the movies. If it were the other way around then the movies would be less satisfying to me. Anyway, congratulations on the job and get some rest.
You reap what you sow - religious connotations aside - this is just plain and simple law of nature. It is what it is. Hopefully the lesson is learned, albeit enormously costly, but if ever another opportunity arises he will handle his affairs better.
Just some "Hobbit" movie info that I found resently. This has been slow going...but it's going.
This is a few of the lastest news.
Viggo Mortensen Talks The Hobbit Written by ady on February 3, 2009 – 6:57 pm -
The good folk at TotalFilm have a revealing interview with Viggo Mortensen in this months magazine where he tells them he’d rather finish what he started than have someone else take over the role of Aragorn although shouldn’t that be start what you finished?
Which ever it is he says he’d want to make sure it was going to be done in ‘the spirit of Tolkien’ before commiting himself. He felt the last 2 movies of the trilogy may have lost that spirit when they concentrated more on the hero’s than the relationships between secondary characters.
“I’d have allowed the secondary characters to speak more and not be so focused on the heroes. There was more balance in the way that all the races of Middle Earth were presented in the first one. It was more about the relationships… That’s just my personal taste.”
On the appointment of Del Toro for The Hobbit movie he says:
“He’s strong minded, intelligent and probably just as stubborn [as Jackson]. I don’t know if it’ll be as big a circus [as The Lord of the Rings] in terms of several people writing changes at the last minute. Maybe it’ll [The Hobbit] be more streamlined and efficient, but to some degree it’ll probably be as bewildering a set up as the other three.”