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Post by Maeglin on Apr 21, 2005 13:11:30 GMT -5
I know this is a long way in the future, but what are we doing about the Tale of Turin and War of Wrath? I think Turin should be given to a single scriptwriter, but the more multi-faceted War of Wrath, many stories ingeniously intertwined by Nerdanel, to the whole team of us, with people seizing scenes they feel they could put an especially good spin on. I, for instance, would like to claim the Maeglin cycle as my own at once...
Of course, if some scenes are strongly contested, we should post multiple versions and come to an appropriate decision and/or compromise.
Nerdanel has written a solid Turin prologue; do we know if she intends to do all of Turin?
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Post by Huinesoron on Apr 21, 2005 13:52:23 GMT -5
I was wondering about WoW -- I'd like to lay claim to everything from Earendil arriving in Valinor, all through the Valinor section. Partly because I think Valinor should be kept to the same writer, and partly because I'm having so much /fun/ with the Valar that I can't let anyone else have them.
Also, how are we ending WoW? I'm thinking that a good, poigniant closing scene would be Maglor casting away the Silmaril -- the story is, after all, all about those things, so I just think it should end with the last one being thrown away. That would leave all the 'This is where the Elves went and this is where the Edain went' bit out, but if we decide to follow this project with the Akallabeth, that would make a good prologue.
We'd have to shift Melkor being sentenced to the Void back a bit, too, but I'd think Eonwe could say that a lot earlier.
-- yes. So, I claim the Valinor section, and possibly the War of Wrath itself, although I won't push for that. I'd also quite like to do the ending of the Silmarils myself, but again, I won't push for it if someone else wants it.
Who have we actually got in Scriptwriting, other than Maeglin, Huinesoron and Nerdanel? I've recruited BeautyID to help me on some of the scenes in FotN (Alqualonde, mainly)... anyone else?
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Post by BeautyID on Apr 22, 2005 10:39:51 GMT -5
Of course, I like the idea of the whole thing ending with Maglor.
And as for the Alqualonde thing... well, I'm nearly done my English course, so in a couple of weeks I might start... thinking about it. ^_^'
I actually posted here, woo!
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Post by Maeglin on Apr 22, 2005 12:29:37 GMT -5
I'm a Maglor fan too, but you were undoubtedly first to the mark. I cede his end to you, Huinesoron, but will watch, hawklike!
I had an envisaged ending where Maglor struggles to grip it, at last hurls it far into the depths of the sea, and crumples down, weeping. As the shot changed, Maglor changed into Elrond, overcome with grief, sitting at his desk, crying silently; then mastering himself with an effort, and writing a final paragraph in a book, his voiceover reading it.
"Maglor lamented on the shores, but never came back among the peoples of the Elves; and though Mandos holds all his brothers, the great singer's fate is not known. Some say his voice is heard still. Thus the Silmarils attained their final resting places, in the sky, the fires of the earth, and the deep ocean; and there ends the Quenta Silmarillion."
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Post by Huinesoron on Apr 22, 2005 13:32:51 GMT -5
That would be a nice ending. I'd quite like to end it with a sort of slideshow of Maglor shots of him walking along the coast... you know, sort of fading between one clip and another... maybe a compromise? As we've avoided slipping any images from out of the Silmarillion timeframe in so far, perhaps we could just have Elrond's voiceover of those lines over said badly-explained footage? I dunno... we'll have to see.
I'm trying to think of ways to combine the two... Elrond closes the Silmarillion, leaves, and the Maglor scenes run in faint mode over it, perhaps? But that sounds a little cheesy...
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Post by Maeglin on Apr 22, 2005 14:00:28 GMT -5
I like the whole book-as-film concept, so I'd like Elrond to be visible in that bit. We'll have already had some of Maglor wandering. How about Elrond looking out of his window up at the Evening Star, then close up on the starry sky and credits come up with the song?
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Post by Huinesoron on Apr 22, 2005 14:32:10 GMT -5
Oh, yes. Starry sky, with Earendil shining brightly... very nice. [Grins]
I just hope the songwriters are up to the task... it doesn't seem like any of the other departments are doing very much. Should we be poking the Artists into getting to work?
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Post by lumenromello on Jul 8, 2005 19:08:46 GMT -5
I'd like to call dibs on the adaptation of Tuor's coming to Gondolin, and perhaps a sizable portion of the Gondolin sequences. Actually, let me rephrase that: I'd like to try my hand at adapting those scenes. Anyone else is welcome to help me and give me pointers, as I've never before adapted anything to the screen.
Also, where do you think that we should start the Tuor sequences with? A quick VO scene describing his childhood, and then starting in with his escape from the Easterlings? Help, please!
-LR.
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Post by Maeglin on Jul 26, 2005 2:42:00 GMT -5
Sounds about right, yes. Remember we'll have seen Huor's story in the Children of Hurin, to whatever extent. Probably Rian's death would be a starting point.
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Post by lumenromello on Aug 10, 2005 13:41:47 GMT -5
Exactly what I was thinking. Oh, and about that prologue thread: you're right. I just hadn't given it thought when I commented on it.
Well, time to haul out my copy of UT.
-lr.
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Post by gilgalad on Aug 11, 2005 22:13:11 GMT -5
I have written a small script about Elrond coming to Celebrimbor's aid after Sauron laid to waste Eregion, if i remember i;ll try to load it up, basically its Elrond finding Celebrimbor's body and Elrond leading the remnants to Imaldris
G.G
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Post by hiddenvalor on May 5, 2008 23:02:44 GMT -5
I would like to try my hand at writing a script for the Tale of Turin--"try" being the operative word. I can start by writing and posting a treatment to see if you guys like my style and to provide an opportunity for comments on plot, characterization, and continuity before I would actually write the script. I've never been part of a project like this before, but I think I'm up for the challenge.
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Post by Glorfindel on May 7, 2008 8:19:53 GMT -5
Up for the challenge you say? Well then, grab it, take it! Please look through the old postings before you start. Not quite sure what state TOT was left in (if it was started). I'm less than ten days from finishing an alternate version of the FOTN script (I'm going to take a bath and nap when it's complete) so even if there is something out there, please take a whack at it.
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Post by hiddenvalor on May 7, 2008 13:55:15 GMT -5
Don't worry, I've spent the last few days reading and re-reading the FotN scripts, Maeglin's script, and Nerdanel's prologue for ToT. I've already put together a rough outline so I'll have an idea of where how I want it structured before I sit down and write the treatment. *rubs hands together* Okay, time to get to it!
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Post by tamitha on May 7, 2008 20:49:57 GMT -5
@ Hiddenvalor: Please be aware that this board was dead for almost two years. hS made an attempt at reviving it which is when I joined. It has seen a lot of life over the past year and dear sweet Maeglin has rejoined us, though he like I just kind of lurks in the shadows. We are all really waiting on "G" to show us what he has. Nerdanel is no longer with us, that I know of, she hasn't logged in for four years, so if she still peaks in she isn't logging on, therefore I'm assuming she isn't part of the project any more. hS has been gone for over a month and Chronicler logs in very occasionally, but like Maeglin and I she just lurks in the shadows. Anyway the bottomline is yes please, jump in. I think we all felt as if we had more than enough to do editing the two scripts that we already have and we were not ready to move on to the last two, but you can certainly work on it. Maeglin's script hasn't been touched, we are trying to work out FoTN, once it is settled then we will begin the editing process on Maeglin's script, but you can put yours out there, just like Maeglin put his out there. It may be awhile before we round to editing it, but if it's complete and just sitting on hold, well no harm, no foul. It's one less thing to have worry about and when we get round to it the only thing we will need to do is edit it. "G" and I actually were toying around with the idea of telling the stories in reverse - like Starwars did. I mean, LotR has already been made into a movie and now they are moving backwards to the Hobbit, so why not just keep moving in reverse? It will cut down on huge amounts of explaining needing to be done because LotR left questions that will be answered by the Hobbit, that would be answered by WoW, that would be answered by ToT, etc. etc. The ground work would already be laid by the previous movie and the subsequent movie would just be clearing things up until you got to the final movie FoTN in which all questions would be resolved and everything would now make sense. It's just a thought I threw out there, but I will let you and "G" kick that idea around because I barely have time to come up for air these days. I haven't watched T.V. in so long now that I'm thinking about giving it away to someone that can use it. If I'm not working at my job I'm doing homework, or I'm in church or I'm out there in the real world trying to be a friend and help out someone. Sleep? What's that? I'll sleep when I'm dead.
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