Post by christullochmccabe on Jan 31, 2008 8:13:39 GMT -5
Hey guys and gals!,
I just found this site and am so happy to see a group of people dedicated to silmarillion.
I am a screenplay writer and graduated from film school 5 years ago and have done a mixture of writing and editing/SFX work since I left but have spent a HUGE amount of time laying out and drafting the Fall Of Gondolin or The tale Of Tuor with a colleuge. Some of the story is from the silmarillion. and some the lost tales, as I feel there is some very very important ideas that did not make it to the silmarillion. but never the less is great for film, e.g. THE HOUSE OF HAMMER!
It has taken years to get it were it is now as translating from tolkien (espesally 1st age) to film is VERY hard to do right, I am freinds with richard taylor of Weta and spoke to him when I 1st met him about the idea when I was in london and he loved it and had given me a contact for a concept artist if we need one also he thought that it would work better as a seris of short animations...a bit like clone wars...what do you all reakon?
Post by christullochmccabe on Jan 31, 2008 8:19:48 GMT -5
p.s......on a completely different note, I might as well tell you lot as i no you would appreciate it....I grow up as a child on the same street tolkien did...his house was only 10 doors down!...COOL AYE!? ^^
Post by Glorfindel on Jan 31, 2008 14:12:33 GMT -5
Oh my! Another writer! Well, hello and how do you do? I am so glad that you are here and welcome, welcome, welcome to the project.
Take a look around, if you haven't already, and get acclimated. Wonderful to hear about your friendship with Richard Taylor. In the past, I have thought that the stories would be great as a series, but I also thought it might be more difficult to accomplish it in that mode then doing a few movies.
On the same street as Tolkien? Come on, don't tease us, stories please! ;D
Post by christullochmccabe on Jan 31, 2008 21:10:35 GMT -5
Unfortunatly there are no real stories as he lived there about 70 years before i did ha ha ha and not many people there no this (but i did a a tolkien lover) and yes I find the feature lenth suits my style of writing better as I dont like to rush story telling for the sake of a 21min time frame...But the biggest problem we have come up against is the fact that most of tolkiens stories are a "sad ending" on the whole...there may be a glimmer of hope but its is on the whole one long painful loose for most in arda. So with the TFOG or as I prefer to call it The Tale Of Tuor, the focus had to be taken off slitly on the loose of the last real threat to Morgoth and the Masses of lost Noldor and the Nail in the coffin for the elves and give there some form of hope to the story and the veiwer and some sort of recompence and this I put in the form of erendil...I have put a HEAVY amout of time and emotion into this child and have hinted throughout at what good will come to the world if he grows up so when the hordes of Melkor decend opon the city the veiwer will feel real greif and trepidation at the thought of erendil falling along with the city...but alas (as we all no) he does not and he becomes all great in the world and in the screenplays end the veiwer would be comforted at the servival of him evan if Gondolin fell....almost like the the spirit of the the noldor of gondolin escaped and lives on in a new form and as long as this happens Melkor will never win.....
This is one of MANY intertwined relasionships in the story and there are many many aspects to the screenplay we have done but is maybe one of the most important for the screenplay version and a stand alone film which is why I have brought it up.
Because of the setting of the story also I have had to find as many cutaweys as poss as in the book the story is very strictly following 2 characters at all times witch for film would be tiring and dull at the slower paced scenes, for example...Imagine in the LotRs films just following aragorn NON STOP...it would be painful to watch...there are cut aweys all over the place to keep the pace up and useing Meiglin and his past including his dad Eol and his building of tunnels and meeting with Melkor is great for keeping the story moving...these are things I feel are a Must in the exacustion of a professionally done screenplay.
christullochmccabe- I'm sorry I haven't spoken up nor introduced my-self to you before now. I saw that "G" had welcomed you aboard and sufficied it at that. I was extremely active at one point, but things in my life have taken a turn and I don't have the time I once did. The thing that intrigues me about having you on board is the fact that you are a bona fide card carrying, degree holding "screenplay writer" Up to this point all of us who are writing these scripts are authors, some of us actually published, some not , some working on it. But the point as we've tried to write these scripts and overcome obstacles the one thing that keeps coming up is "We are not screenplay writers, we are authors" and we all know that there is a difference in thinking about how to write out the dialogue and the scenes. The staff member in charge of the screen writing is on an extended leave of absence and I again am not in a position any longer to devote massive amounts of time, but I'm sure that "G" would appreciate your assistance with his version of the script for the first movie that he is developing. His version is the active one. The script hS wrote is complete and he and I were editing it, but as I said neither he nor I are in a position to move forward with that at this time, and "G" is developing his own version. If hS and I were still working on the orginal we would appreciate your input. If you like you may look over the original script. Even though I'm not actively writing I still check in on the board frequently, so if you have suggestions for the original script I will be able to look them over and maybe even incorporate a few things depending on my availability. Unfortunately, nothing has been decided at this point. I do not know if we are going to use the original script, "G's" script or incorporate the two different scripts, although that may be difficult since "G's" is vastly different from the original. But then who knows, with a screenwriter on board, you may be able to help us do just that. Anyway, welcome aboard, glad to have you, especially now, because you will be able to work with "G" now that hS and I are unable to.