Elianna
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Post by Elianna on Nov 19, 2004 8:31:24 GMT -5
How are we doing auditions? I know I probably don't live anywhere near any of you, but I would love to be able to do one (or more) of the voices. Might the handy-dandy Internet be of use in this problem?
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Post by Huinesoron on Nov 19, 2004 9:05:46 GMT -5
Here's a few ideas I can think of.
1. Get people who live near each other together in groups. -Obviously, this would be a bit tricky.
2. Get people to record themselves doing a speech from the character they wish to play and then stick it up on the 'net so we can hear it. -This requires people to have microphones, which not everyone will. HOWEVER, they'd need a microphone anyway, to be able to get their lines to us. Actually, I still don't understand how we hope to do that, but I'm sure someone must have some idea.
3. Get them to read their lines to any Silm-knowing friends they have, and trust their judgement. -This would require us to trust both the reader to accurately convey their friends' opinions, and the friends not just to say 'Yeah, it's great' whatever happens.
4. Get them to read the lines to a drama teacher/professional actor/anyone involved in any form of acting, excluding TV, because I wouldn't trust your average soap opera star to even know what acting is. -Assuming the actor/whatever is good enough to tell the truth, we're now only having to trust one person, who would be on this Board anyway.
5. ... there is no five.
Of these, I'd say #2 is the best. There may be other alternatives I haven't thought of. I certainly hope so.
And I'll play any male Vala or Noldo, if needed. [Writes his name up on a chalkboard] Just getting my hand in /very/ early there.
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Post by Chronicler on Nov 19, 2004 9:13:37 GMT -5
Good list of ideas, hS. *plots to get a sound program for her computer* I'll be willing to play any of the female characters (though I am partial to Nienna and Yavanna ), so I'll just try to get a voice clip up somehow. BTW, hS, what kind of accents do we want for the different characters? Oh, and just to re-point out what I asked on the original thread, if I can come up with a good hissing and creepy voice, I would love to do something with Ungoliant. I don't know how much we're making of her in this, so I thought I'd ask. Oh, and thanks, Elianna, for getting a thread going in here! ;D ~ Chronicler ~
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Post by Berzerker_prime on Nov 19, 2004 9:42:02 GMT -5
What'd we decide on? Live or animation? The audition and acting process would be greatly simplified with the animation track. We could send sound files and images back and forth over the 'net without having to gather a bunch of people somewhere. Not only that, but we'd be able to do it with fewer people, if it came to that. The way the thread is right now, I can't tell which way you're going, though... Bado na siidh! Berz.
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StarwindRohana
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Post by StarwindRohana on Nov 19, 2004 12:11:52 GMT -5
Not sure how I'm going to do this...probably I'll end up using a school computer, though it'd be more helpful if I could meet a fellow PPCer/filmworker with a sound program. As far as I recall from the Board, I'm voicing Nerdanel, and possibly Elwing.
May I ask something? Is this film going to be cartoon-style, or Shrek-style animation? I'd really have problems with taking a cartoon-style Silm seriously -it doesn't really seem to fit in with the way it was written, to me. Real-action would be best, but that's impossible...so, which is it? I don't think it's that hard to do Shrek-style or 3D animation, and it adds more 'depth'.
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Post by Berzerker_prime on Nov 19, 2004 13:51:44 GMT -5
I disagree, whole-heartedly.
Animation doesn't have to adhere to the dippy Disney style that prevails in the American media today. I'll point to Anime (specifically Record of Lodoss War if you want an example of fantasy) and leave it at that. Frankly, to me, it's the Shrek-style that is what't not believable.
Berz.
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Post by Chronicler on Nov 19, 2004 14:26:36 GMT -5
I'm going to agree with Berzerker on this one. *also points at Anime* There's some really detailed animation people have done with that. *nod nod*
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StarwindRohana
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Post by StarwindRohana on Nov 19, 2004 15:08:31 GMT -5
Sorry. . .it just seems to me that cartoon-style is very 'flat', as it were -this is just my opinion. However, if you know of a way to make it seem more 3D and detailed, it would be great. Maybe there's a way of 'blending' real life and cartoon? Like photomanips? You could manipulate a photo of one person, add some Anime-touches -make that lots of Anime-touches -and you'd get quite a nice image, I think. Possibly. And as for landscapes...there're loads on the 'Net to touch up. *Hopeful grin.* Er...does that sound an okay idea? *Scuttles off to manip.*
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Post by Berzerker_prime on Nov 19, 2004 22:15:43 GMT -5
Maybe there's a way of 'blending' real life and cartoon? Like photomanips? You could manipulate a photo of one person, add some Anime-touches -make that lots of Anime-touches -and you'd get quite a nice image, I think. Possibly. And as for landscapes...there're loads on the 'Net to touch up. *Hopeful grin.* Er...does that sound an okay idea? *Scuttles off to manip.* Oooh! Yikes! Um... That's called rotoscoping and... err... it's one of the things that Bakshii did very... very.... veryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryVERY... wrong... It's probably due to bad flashbacks (why I volunteered to watch the Bakshii not once, but twice is still beyond me), but I'm firmly in the "for the love of Eru, let's not rotoscope" camp. Berz.
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Elianna
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Post by Elianna on Nov 20, 2004 0:31:59 GMT -5
My bro's making me a new computer (new hobby he's picked up or something...) and I've asked him to get me some photo/movie editting programing. If that doesn't include sound editting, I could probably get him to give me that too. (Don't expect me to do be able to do much with it, I'm not very computer savvy.)
I volunteer for any voice part! (Keeping in mind I'm a girl.) I can parrot a British accent fairly well, but have some slight problems with ennunciation and s's sometimes.
Personally, I think anime is damaging teenagers' artistic skills. They say they can draw, but really they can do anime, and nothing else. This coming from the one who likes Kenshin and Cardcaptor Sakura and has several really artistic anime-freak friends? For the purposes of this project, I think 2-D would be better than 3-D; just because we already have some good 2-D artists here and no 3-D artists (that I know of).
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Post by Berzerker_prime on Nov 22, 2004 16:04:49 GMT -5
I disagree on that, too. Anime is not a single style. All one has to do is compare Sailormoon to Berserk to get that much painfully out in the open. At best, Anime can be qualified to be a medium and I've come to believe, after a decade or so of watching lots and lots of it, that even that is pushing it.
"Anime" is just a term for "animation that comes from Japan," if you ask me. That's why I object to terms like "American Anime" and "Anime inspired." They make no sense. It's like saying "Pixar Loony Toon" or "Hollywood inspired." What the heck do those even mean?
I will grant that the uber-popular Anime that get circulated in Western markets these days do seem to have a somewhat homogenous style. That does seem to color people's influences when it comes to artwork. But saying that people can't really draw because all they can do is Anime is like saying John Kovalic can't really draw because all he does is cartoons.
Anime has no single style. It's just a sad fact that there is a more popularized over-style that Anime seems to be overwhelmingly adhering to, these days. But there is no single Anime style. For example, I can tell an Akira Toriyama character or landscape from a Hayao Miyazaki character or landscape. They have distinctly different styles.
I've been told my character designs are Anime-ish. I always respond by asking them what they mean by that. The answer is always the same; "because the eyes are big." So what? Disney was doing that back before anyone else was even animating anything. Disney still does that, in fact. Big eyes are a more universal concept than many people realize. Meanwhile, I've accidentally left pictures at the houses of friends who also draw and I've gotten them back with the comment "this looked like it was yours, so I brought it along with me to give back."
Anywho... Um... can you tell I've had this conversation with people before?
Berz.
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Post by Tatharien on Nov 23, 2004 3:01:24 GMT -5
Please let me be a voicer. I don't care who, I don't care about any of the details. I want to be part of this...
Tasari here, by the way. Agent Tath.
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Luthien
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Post by Luthien on Nov 23, 2004 18:55:21 GMT -5
I can do the voice of anyone female, really.. I have a medium to low voice, I'd say, though I'm not sure I could sound like an old woman.
And if we wanted to do this with British accents, I can certainly pull off quite a nice upper-class Midlands-ish sort of accent. Hehe. The rest depend on whatever I've been hearing recently, i.e., if I watch a movie set in Scotland, my voice will take on a hint of Scotch dialect. That sort of thing.
As to rotoscoping.. which should probably be discussed in the Conceptual Art section.. please, no. I think animation could work just fine - for instance, Bill Watterson, who drew Calvin and Hobbes, did some wonderful landscapes in 2D animation that sometimes borders on 3D. That's not to say that we should use Calvin and Hobbes style, but that sort of concept might work nicely.
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Tamaris
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Post by Tamaris on Nov 26, 2004 22:58:36 GMT -5
For those who are auditioning, there is a program called SoundStudio which is really helpful. I know, because I've used it for notes. I don't know if it's only compatible with Mac computers. It might be.
We could record and submit our auditions, and email them. If you have a hotmail account, they now allow you to send ONE attachment of up to 10 megabytes. SoundStudio files very rarely hit that mark... Unless you're recording for about two hours straight.
I'm also not so sure about the quality of the recording. But still, it's worth looking into.
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Meitian
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Post by Meitian on Nov 26, 2004 23:21:33 GMT -5
What should people use to audition? Lines from the script-in-progress, the Lays, from the Silm?
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